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Fwd: Talk proposal: The agony of choice
by Norman Feske 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

FYi, cross-posted from microkernel-devroom@...86... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Talk proposal: The agony of choice Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:33:42 +0100 From: Stefan Kalkowski <stefan.kalkowski@...1...> To: microkernel-devroom@...86... Hi folks, I know I definitely missed the deadline, but I've heard you're still looking for another talk for the next-to-last slot? I would like to propose a 30-45min talk about the following topic: [title] The agony of choice - the diversity of microkernels in Genode [name] Stefan Kalkowski [abstract] One shiny aspect of the Genode OS framework is its diversity with respect to microkernels and hardware platforms it's running on top of. Although primarily of interest to clients and users, this property provides some hidden benefits to the system-developer itself. This talk is basically an experience report. It will give you an insight into the benefits and troubles of developing on a diverse biotope, the strength and weaknesses of the available platforms, how Genode gets ported to a kernel, and what is basically necessary from the kernel's perspective to drive Genode. The last point will be illustrated by introducing recent developments of a hybrid kernel/user API in Genode. [short bio] Stefan Kalkowski has been working with the Genode OS framework since it's first beginnings. His diploma thesis is based on the first version of it (at that time it was labeled 'Bastei'). Since then, he became a Genode-enthusiast. Before joining Genode Labs as an employee about two and a half years ago, he was working for two years at the Operating Systems Group of TU Dresden as a PhD student. [links] http://genode.org (project website) http://www.genode-labs.com (company website) [photo] -> see attachment [git repo] https://github.com/genodelabs/genode Regards Stefan -- Stefan Kalkowski Genode Labs http://www.genode-labs.com/ · http://genode.org/ Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth

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Bugtracker note in commit message
by Martin Stein 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

I've noticed that there seems to be no convention for the note within a commit message, about wich Github issue it addresses. Often it looks like "This is an awesome commit. Fixes #X." as first commit line, wich should be limited to 50 chars. Thus the phrase "Fixes #X." wastes a lot of the documentation space. I know it's fussy, but i'll wonder if something like "X This is an awesome commit." is fine? Greets, Martin

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File synchronisation tool
by Martin Stein 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Hi, Last night i've noticed that 'rsync' is essential for my daily work because it's the backend of my file synchronisation scripts i use to hold my 3 machines in sync. So i would like to suggest it for our roadmap 2012. Greets, Martin

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Fwd: [Microkernel-devroom] Accepted talks and schedule of our devroom at FOSDEM 2012
by Norman Feske 09 Jan '12

09 Jan '12

FYI, forwarded from microkernel-devroom@...86... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Microkernel-devroom] Accepted talks and schedule of our devroom at FOSDEM 2012 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:55:12 +0100 From: Jakub Jermar <jakub@...85...> Reply-To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. <microkernel-devroom@...86...> To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. <microkernel-devroom@...86...> Hi, here is a schedule for the Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom @ FOSDEM 2012: 9:00am – 9:25am Welcome! or Why do we meet here today (Jakub Jermář) 9:30am – 10:00am Introduction to the NOVA kernel API (Julian Stecklina) 10:10am – 10:55am Introduction of the Genode OS Framework (Norman Feske) 11:10am – 11:55am Introduction to HelenOS (Jakub Jermář) 11:55am – 12:55pm Lunch break 1:00pm – 2:00pm The microkernel overhead (Martin Děcký) 2:10pm – 2:55pm Reserve slot: First come, first assigned 3:05pm – 3:50pm Dive into HelenOS Device Drivers (Jiří Svoboda) 4:00pm – 5:00pm Panel discussion Finally, the schedule filled surprisingly quickly. For the sake of ballanced content, I decided to withdraw my own proposal, which would otherwise be a third talk dedicated to HelenOS. The reserve slot is basically meant for GNU Hurd or MINIX 3, whichever claims it first, or any other, not yet represented project. If the slot is not claimed, we can donate it to other types of content for which there is no time now. Note that the last item on the agenda is a panel discussion where we can discuss various topics among the projects. Note that the schedule may change to accommodate the current devroom needs. Any changes will be announced on this mailing list and on the FOSDEM web site, after the schedule is moved there. Jakub _______________________________________________ Microkernel-devroom mailing list Microkernel-devroom@...86... https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom

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Guideline for commits and issues
by Martin Stein 09 Jan '12

09 Jan '12

Is there any guidline for the interplay of commits wich are intended to enrich 'genodelabs/genode' and issues at 'genodelabs'. I wonder if i should create issues for all commits i.e. and if my commit messages should always rely on an issue. greets, Martin

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Building toolchain needs 'libncurses5-dev'
by Martin Stein 04 Jan '12

04 Jan '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I found that building the genode toolchain from source for ARM requires 'libncurses5-dev' to be installed, otherwise it throws an error wich doesn't name this package explicitely but asks for a termcap lib. May this requirement thus be mentioned at 'http://genode.org/download/tool-chain' or within the tool documentation? Greets, Martin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPBB/tAAoJEKCA6JS1Y2nlQiMH/1psgbTOZV9qDQLSDtdWi/PM 9KYWrldU7s8e796lDyRM+dRpnn308o04LwUxtsKrwiKYqgF1kCH2C3wVDoWQ6h9s Fxa2RjvJMcSLEJJKjuFxRrF3adTfBGu7mA8qmpeujMT/3k9xHlhoLopxEHVpp/YG PZJSTdLDMNjzutMkRXTjgzSfnF/Uj4M63+Lsd6EGBa6nESvxad8bgWrkoOzlY6jy cyYSHvGSWT8RIFoQ1NUOFY611cY5+h8u3uMQNJwywiqY8jE/cYy7+EBS812HAgrE 6nCai5MYNP8gZPTlWCGvN/D9tza46OM3tB5C9WeEjtUc5zI6/ydpwGkbf04SmwM= =ayyY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Roadmap 2012
by Norman Feske 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

Hello, as the end of the year is approaching, it's time to make up our minds about the focus of the project in 2012. There are numerous directions we may head to, for example, we could advance our ARM support to move towards the mobile space (tablets and smart phones), or put emphasis on multi-processor support and NUMA, new kernel platforms could be explored, or we could bring forward our ambitions to combine Genode with reconfigurable hardware. However, for me personally, the biggest leap would be to start using Genode as everyday platform for my personal computing needs. I am convinced that the framework has reached the maturity and the essential functionality to make this vision come true in 2012. Using our platform for productive work would provide us with the incentive to address real-world problems that matter for actual users - simply because we would be demanding users. Furthermore, there is no better way to show the conviction that we have in our technology than to use it ourself. Therefore, I propose "Eating our own dog food" as the grand theme of our project for the next year. To schedule our road map, we should first become aware of our actual computing needs and then sensibly prioritize those requirements. I'll start with a brief list of software functionalities that I need. Fundamental: * VIM * Shell (e.g., bash) * Tool chain (coreutils, gcc, binutils, make, findutils, tar, Tcl, expect) * Persistent file system * Block-device encryption * SSH client * Git client * GNUPG * Web browser (also used for email, don't need multi-media stuff) * PDF viewer * A way to run a just-compiled Genode sub system * Interactive python shell (to be used as a calculator) * Screen lock * A fall-back virtual machine running Linux for carrying out sporadic work with images (Gimp, Povray, ImageMagick, etc.) and LaTeX, and for testing the Linux version of Genode Of course, there are further things I desire that are not fundamentally important but would make the experience much more enjoyable. Add-ons: * Tiled window manager (similar to the wonderful ion3) * Intel wireless driver * Media player (at least for playing music) * Thinkpad ACPI support, fan daemon * Qemu * Tuxpaint This list is surprisingly short. With Noux already having reached the state where we can execute VIM natively, supporting the other command-line tools will, for the most part, be a matter of enhancing Noux (i.e., adding support for the fork syscall). In addition, I have the immediate goal to release a new live CD by February 2012. Ideally, the demo scenarios featured on the new live CD should give a glimpse on how Genode will be used a general- purpose OS. Do you agree with the proposal of the overall theme for 2012? Which preconditions would you consider as fundamental to make Genode usable for carrying out productive work? Which other direction would you like to see Genode heading to? Cheers Norman -- Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske Genode Labs http://www.genode-labs.com · http://genode.org Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth

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client-server program...
by Pruthivi Raj 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

dear christian helmuth, Here i attached the client-server program used in genodetoolchain. Basically i'm trying to build a client-server program with encryption facilities. But problem i'm facing here is while sending a string from client to server only the first character in the string is received remaining characters were scrambled.please kindly give some suggestion. Thanking you, with regards, B.Pruthiviraj.

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some minor suggestions
by ross mcginnis 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

Hello all, happy new year! I've been away from the computer for a while and am starting to get back into programming. I'm keen focus on a couple of small personal Genode projects I've wanted to do for a some time. I've a few questions and suggestions to help build the Genode community from the perspective of a hobby programmer like me: 1) could you supply a logo to display on web-pages for linking back to the Genode web-site. 2) As-far-as I can see there is there no place on the Genode site for listing 3rd party associated projects- do you plan in the future to offer something like this? 3) I would like to make a small donation to this project- could you provide a bitcoin address? (It does give one a nice warm fuzzy feeling knowing that you've helped a project that you use) 4) Is it planned for Genode support secure booting and attestation in the future? Secure boot + local object-cap OS + web lends itself to many interesting project possibilies: eg- p2p social networking where the user has true control over their own personal info, or a fast and efficient p2p digital currency, etc. (I believe that there are drivers for the intel TPM chips in Linux--maybe these could help?) thanks ross mcginnis

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Fwd: [Microkernel-devroom] Reminder: deadline for talk submissions is tomorrow
by Norman Feske 30 Dec '11

30 Dec '11

Hello, if you have a topic in mind that would be worthwhile to present at the microkernel devroom at FOSDEM 2012, please consider submitting your idea (by an informal posting to microkernel-devroom@...86...). It would be great to have a larger variety of contributions. Norman -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Microkernel-devroom] Reminder: deadline for talk submissions is tomorrow Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:13:06 +0100 From: Jakub Jermar <jakub@...85...> Reply-To: Multiserver, microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. <microkernel-devroom@...86...> To: Multiserver / microkernel-based operating systems devroom mailing list. <microkernel-devroom@...86...> Hello all, tomorrow is the last day before our devroom's deadline for talk proposal submissions. As of now, there are only four proposals from only two projects (HelenOS and Genode): Jakub Jermar: Welcome! or Why do we meet here today Norman Feske: Introduction of the Genode OS Framework Jiri Svoboda: Introduction to HelenOS Jakub Jermar: Fixing memory management in HelenOS It would be much better if we had talks from all participating projects and in a little bit greater quantity to make the devroom meet its intended purpose. Cheers, Jakub _______________________________________________ Microkernel-devroom mailing list Microkernel-devroom@...86... https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/microkernel-devroom

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