To Paul, Tobias, Stephan, and anyone else who is interested. This is in two parts, my immediate "knee-jerk" reaction to yesterday's comments, and a less-spontaneous 24-hour (philosophic/scientific groundwork) approach to the "paucity of drivers" problem --something that will bedevil any OS or framework!
Logic is the bread, water and light of computers and networking; logic, from ancient Greek logos is language and meaning (ie definitions) that evolve as human thought evolves (most agree that we are in a state of de-evolution: good or bad depending whom you ask). If nothing, definition is static (ie a platform is what ~the user~ stands on), but often changes "effect" in context (rather than meaning); this is no more true than "synthesis."
Norman specifically mentions Genode as "holistic;" the current word for holistic is "whole systems model"and is absent in most scientific research and society's pseudo-scientific "control structures." (At the moment, I am contemplating how to leverage the domain wholesystemsmodel.org.)
The text below was my immediate response last night to the previous email subject thread. I had just finished an apple syrup beverage made from a family of semi-wild apple trees that happen to grow near significant markers for the series of rebellions that eventually led the US Bill of Rights--the template for all human rights. These important places include the iron/charcoal furnace where the revolution was initially plotted, and the modest marker of the last battle of Shays Rebellion, the event that forced the constitution. Shays survived to reach Vermont and help found its namesake university with the Green Mountain Boys. So, life is ripe with meaning where I come from.
===Text from last night=== Userland is people, and people have minds. The way the minds work is very much the way the computers work, but far more advanced with such things as emotional intelligence and related empathic communication This idea that the mind gave the CPU its functionality in its context is actually a given to most because, obviously human minds created the CPUs and OSs with memory and interconnection networks. The journey back from the computer and network back to the mind was remarkable, because it can be modeled by the IP stack far better than any previous explanation. Further, the interrelation between parts of the mind uses co-processing CPUs and networks that we take for granted such that if a CPU or network isn't working, it is the first you notice of the remarkable system. Sadly, if one NEVER knew it didn't work (because it stopped working), one you might never know what that component or connection provides for normal humans. That is the scary part, because civilization finds ways to implement minds that are only partially-working in "synthetic" ways. Sometime in the last decade the "civilization process phenomena" became such that the computer stopped being humanly intelligent, especially with behaviors such as "troll-bashing." The communications network--the Internet--became really, really stupid and violent like TV. If you have read about civilization cycles, then you know that the proper next move is to "get back to basics" which means rolling everything back to the point where it made sense (as from a fully functioning mind) and is not just recent rationale (such as in a partially-functioning mind). For technology, this means "rolling" before Y2K, the point where financial corruption poisoned it with the "tech scandal." For civilization, this means looking closely at the gap between Sophocles and Socrates. ===end of last night's text===
Without doubt, the single most important text on the culture of technology is "Technics and Civilization" by Lewis Mumford. Among things, one finds in it critical inquiry into "false charity," which applies to especially to every Information Society corporation (ie. GSoC). I attempted to cover some of Mumford's gaps with my critical inquiry into the "Occupy" movement of New York last Spring (by leveraging past relationships). In parallel, I designed the "empathy model," which leverages the IP stack, as I mention above, to show an important connection between technology and socio-psychology with respect to collaboration: intelligent emotional communication.
Given this was the basis of my undergrad and most of my present work, I am sticking with it --and I hope it helps.
Regards, John
References:
Technics and Civilization by Lewis Mumford: http://books.google.ca/books/about/Technics_and_Civilization.html?id=PU7Pkte...
My stuff: Empathy Model: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Empathy_Model
Current Dialectic: Critical Inquiry into the Occupy Movement by me http://occupy-critical-inquiry.blogspot.com
Rattlesnake Rebellion: Economics after Shays Rebellion by me http://johnbessa.com/rattlesnake/
Hello Paul,
please keep the postings on the mailing list focused on the topic the list was created for, which is technical discussion of Genode development. Your writing has hardly any relation to this topic. Please be respectful to the subscribers of the list by not misusing the list as your personal blog or for the purpose of self-expression.
I am sure that many list subscribers are interested in science, society, philosophy, history, or photography - just like you and me. But there are more suitable places for the discourse of those topics than Genode's mailing list.
I sincerely hope for your understanding Norman
Sorry, this message was meant to address John, not Paul.
On 01/19/2013 04:59 PM, Norman Feske wrote:
Hello Paul,
please keep the postings on the mailing list focused on the topic the list was created for, which is technical discussion of Genode development. Your writing has hardly any relation to this topic. Please be respectful to the subscribers of the list by not misusing the list as your personal blog or for the purpose of self-expression.
I am sure that many list subscribers are interested in science, society, philosophy, history, or photography - just like you and me. But there are more suitable places for the discourse of those topics than Genode's mailing list.
I sincerely hope for your understanding Norman
Hello Norman,
My plan is to make a significant investment in your project (for free) to hopefully make something that can be "delivered" to humanity and not just, for instance, a Google repository.
Now that there is conflict (which is beneficial at this stages), I need you to describe for me in a paragraph exactly how you intend to leverage all this work to benefit humanity through free and open software development (such as GNU did).
TIA, John
Hi John,
if you are interested in my personal vision behind Genode, you may find the following link insightful:
http://genode.org/about/interview_rel36
That said, I do not want to convince you of anything. If you have concerns that spending your time and energy on our project may be a waste, please just don't do it. Vice versa, if you see that our work aligns well with your goals, you are welcome to use it (it's Free Software after all) or even contribute.
With "contribute" I specifically mean working with the code, not evangelizing, or merely suggesting what could be implemented, or entering philosophical debates. Maybe I mistook your "Scientific groundwork" posting for going into the latter direction? Hence, my call for staying on-topic when posting on the mailing list. Please do not take it as offense - just keep the purpose of the mailing list in mind.
Regards Norman