Dear whoever reads this,
The only purpose of my current letter is to note that the GenodeOS gets beaten by the MINIX3 at getting newcomers on-board due to the fact that the MINIX3 has an ISO image that people can install to VirtualBox and the GenodeOS lacks such downloadable image.
Actually, I once obtained one such GenodeOS image in 2010, but today is 2017. I haven't exhaustively tested the GenodeOS book, but at first glance it seems that the book assumes, at least from paths' point of view, a person is required to run a copy of the GenodeOS before building the GenodeOS. For example, after cloning the
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode
and following instructions on page 24 of the 2017_08_22 version of the
(Chapter 2.3, "Using the build system") http://genode.org/documentation/genode-foundations-17-05.pdf
namely
./tool/create_builddir x86_64 cd ./build/x86_64 nice -n20 make
I get an error message
---citation---start---- /bin/bash: /usr/local/genode-gcc/bin/genode-x86-g++: No such file or directory ---citation---end------
Obviously I AM NOT running GenodeOS, if I'm a newcomer and want to try out the GenodeOS for the very first time. As I wasn't given an ISO image to to try the GenodeOS, then my next step is to follow the official instructions, which in this case is to build the GenodeOS myself. Yet, the build system assumes that I'm building the GenodeOS WHILE RUNNING GENODEOS, because hardly any Linux or BSD distribution has a path like
/usr/local/genode-gcc
available by default. A chicken and an egg. There's a need for a grown up bird to lay the egg, but if the whole path of software-/bio-evolution is to be skipped, then a lamb must be able to give birth to a non-mammal, a lizard, a bird, a fish, to make fast bootstrapping possible, not to mention "The Alien Option":
https://youtu.be/zCqoA-FGgoc?t=20s
Thank You for reading my comment :-)
you don't need a GenodeOS ISO image, but in order to compile, you need the Genode Toolchain. Instructions for downloading and extracting are found here:
https://genode.org/download/tool-chain
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Martin Vahi <martin.vahi@...427...> wrote:
Dear whoever reads this,
The only purpose of my current letter is to note that the GenodeOS gets beaten by the MINIX3 at getting newcomers on-board due to the fact that the MINIX3 has an ISO image that people can install to VirtualBox and the GenodeOS lacks such downloadable image.
Actually, I once obtained one such GenodeOS image in 2010, but today is 2017. I haven't exhaustively tested the GenodeOS book, but at first glance it seems that the book assumes, at least from paths' point of view, a person is required to run a copy of the GenodeOS before building the GenodeOS. For example, after cloning the
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode
and following instructions on page 24 of the 2017_08_22 version of the
(Chapter 2.3, "Using the build system") http://genode.org/documentation/genode-foundations-17-05.pdf
namely
./tool/create_builddir x86_64 cd ./build/x86_64 nice -n20 make
I get an error message
---citation---start---- /bin/bash: /usr/local/genode-gcc/bin/genode-x86-g++: No such file or
directory ---citation---end------
Obviously I AM NOT running GenodeOS, if I'm a newcomer and want to try out the GenodeOS for the very first time. As I wasn't given an ISO image to to try the GenodeOS, then my next step is to follow the official instructions, which in this case is to build the GenodeOS myself. Yet, the build system assumes that I'm building the GenodeOS WHILE RUNNING GENODEOS, because hardly any Linux or BSD distribution has a path like
/usr/local/genode-gcc
available by default. A chicken and an egg. There's a need for a grown up bird to lay the egg, but if the whole path of software-/bio-evolution is to be skipped, then a lamb must be able to give birth to a non-mammal, a lizard, a bird, a fish, to make fast bootstrapping possible, not to mention "The Alien Option":
https://youtu.be/zCqoA-FGgoc?t=20s
Thank You for reading my comment :-)
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