Greetings all,
I was just wondering if there was an estimate on when the next release might happen as I am looking forward to seeing it as well as wondering if the current VirtualBox implementation in Genode will have been improved with networking and perhaps a local filesystem (for physical CDROM access or VDI acsess) so that you do not have to compile the guest OS ISO's into a Genode-NOVA-VB ISO to boot?
Kind Regards and have a great day, Lonnie
Hello Lonnie,
I was just wondering if there was an estimate on when the next release might happen as I am looking forward to seeing it as well as wondering if the current VirtualBox implementation in Genode will have been improved with networking and perhaps a local filesystem (for physical CDROM access or VDI acsess) so that you do not have to compile the guest OS ISO's into a Genode-NOVA-VB ISO to boot?
the next release (version 14.05) will be published end of May. We plan to have guest-networking support by summer. I cannot promise that the feature will become part of 14.05 already.
Btw, with the current version of VirtualBox, you don't need to load the VDI/ISO images as boot modules. You can already store them on a regular file system on disk.
VirtualBox always requests a file-system session and obtains the VDI or ISO file from there. It's just that our example run script routes the file-system session request to a ram_fs, which, in turn, obtains the VDI file from core's ROM service. You can replace the ram_fs with a real file system (e.g., ext2_fuse_fs) working on a block device (e.g., via ahci_drv).
Cheers Norman
Hi Norman,
My questions stem from the way that VirtualBox currently works on other hosts in that you can have it look at the physical CDROM or an ISO on the hard drive to boot from. Actually, I have been researching VB a bit as well and it seems that there is also a way to make VB boot physical partitions into a VM. This would be very good to have in the NOVA-Genode-VirtualBox design as well.
As you know, one of my current goals is to basically make a full Type-1 hypervisor from the NOVA-Genode-VirtualBox solution which is functionally similar to the older NOVA v0.3 DEMO but instead have VirtualBox for the VMM's and in a Genode Nitpicker GUI but still retain the VERY NICE keyboard navigation from that demo to switch between VM's, I could envision a very nice Type-1 hypervisor out of this combination and could thrust Genode onto the hypervisor stage to compete with XEN, Hyper-V, and VMware in this arena.
Also currently it seems that Genode does not have a filemanager nor desktop manager as well and I have also been looking at possibly trying to port an existing open source linux or windows desktop manager over to Genode as that would also greatly increase the popularity as well when people can explore the OS a bit more as it evolves to a general OS.
Kind Regards and have a great day, Lonnie
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Norman Feske <norman.feske@...1...>wrote:
Hello Lonnie,
I was just wondering if there was an estimate on when the next release might happen as I am looking forward to seeing it as well as wondering if the current VirtualBox implementation in Genode will have been improved with networking and perhaps a local filesystem (for physical CDROM access or VDI acsess) so that you do not have to compile the guest OS ISO's into a Genode-NOVA-VB ISO to boot?
the next release (version 14.05) will be published end of May. We plan to have guest-networking support by summer. I cannot promise that the feature will become part of 14.05 already.
Btw, with the current version of VirtualBox, you don't need to load the VDI/ISO images as boot modules. You can already store them on a regular file system on disk.
VirtualBox always requests a file-system session and obtains the VDI or ISO file from there. It's just that our example run script routes the file-system session request to a ram_fs, which, in turn, obtains the VDI file from core's ROM service. You can replace the ram_fs with a real file system (e.g., ext2_fuse_fs) working on a block device (e.g., via ahci_drv).
Cheers Norman
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Hi Lonnie,
My questions stem from the way that VirtualBox currently works on other hosts in that you can have it look at the physical CDROM or an ISO on the hard drive to boot from. Actually, I have been researching VB a bit as well and it seems that there is also a way to make VB boot physical partitions into a VM. This would be very good to have in the NOVA-Genode-VirtualBox design as well.
design-wise, there is no show stopper to do that with our version as well. But some implementation bits are still missing. I am pretty sure that we will support this feature as it is very useful indeed.
As you know, one of my current goals is to basically make a full Type-1 hypervisor from the NOVA-Genode-VirtualBox solution which is functionally similar to the older NOVA v0.3 DEMO but instead have VirtualBox for the VMM's and in a Genode Nitpicker GUI but still retain the VERY NICE keyboard navigation from that demo to switch between VM's, I could envision a very nice Type-1 hypervisor out of this combination and could thrust Genode onto the hypervisor stage to compete with XEN, Hyper-V, and VMware in this arena.
Also currently it seems that Genode does not have a filemanager nor desktop manager as well and I have also been looking at possibly trying to port an existing open source linux or windows desktop manager over to Genode as that would also greatly increase the popularity as well when people can explore the OS a bit more as it evolves to a general OS.
I agree. There is even some work in progress on my side. However, instead of porting an existing DE, I am investigating some new ideas. If you like, you may have a look at my line of work on the following branch.
https://github.com/nfeske/genode/commits/ui
Apart from this undertaking, it would be worthwhile to look into the possibility of porting an existing desktop environment. As we have Qt5 readily available, there exists at least a starting point.
Cheers Norman
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