Hello everyone,
recent activity on the mailing list and issue tracker suggests that our community lacks a public space for causal talk among users.
The issue tracker is the time-tested workbench of Genode's developers. As a tool for organizing work and discussing deeply technical topics, it is not conductive for uninitiated people who wish to get engaged with the project.
Our mailing list is an adequate medium to get technical questions answered, discussing the road map, or to publish announcements. But its somewhat formal character is inappropriate for causal conversation about topics merely tangential to Genode.
The subreddit /r/genode is pretty much deserted. IRC lacks persistence and structure.
Recently, I got repeatedly asked for my opinion about creating a Discourse forum or for unlocking the forum functionality of our GitHub project. I would leave the latter unconsidered to keep our dependency from GitHub features at bay. But I'm wondering, would it be worthwhile to consider opening a forum at Discourse [1]? It is open source and can in principle be self-hosted. Unlike proprietary SaaS products, all forum data is portable.
Our small team of Genode Labs is not able to carry the additional burden of operating a self-hosted Discourse instance today. But we'd consider purchasing a forum at discourse.org and cover the expenses.
As the forum would be a place for users, it should best be operated and moderated by users, not the Genode developer team. This way, the forum won't have any corporate smell, everyone can be on eye level, and the core developer team won't be consumed by additional responsibilities.
This brings me to the following question:
Are there volunteers among you who'd like to contribute by assuming the role of administering and moderating of such a forum?
Cheers Norman
This brings me to the following question:
Are there volunteers among you who'd like to contribute by assuming the role of administering and moderating of such a forum?
If there is demand for such a forum and someone takes the lead, I might sign up as "backup moderator" or "second tier moderator" (is there such a thing ?). I'm quite opiniated on a number of subjects though so that may conflict with the need to be a neutral observer...!
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Self-hosting wise, Fossil takes just a few minutes to setup but looks ultra spartan (see e.g. their forum here : https://fossil-scm.org/forum/forummain ) which is a probable deal breaker I guess, compared to modern-looking chat/forum/wiki's. But if someone feels like looking into its "skins" feature, doing deep CSS styling to make it look good, and that ends up being good enough to attrack a crowd... Then that buys whoever goes this way a free-as-in-beer/speech service, hosted either on chiselapp or even self-hosted by someone with a permanent internet connection.
Cedric
As long as the post volume is similar to what's in this email list or slightly higher, I'd be willing to be a moderator.
To my merits: * Ran a small-to-midsize (~150 person) discord for my college board game club, so have some experience * Willing to organize the forum, delete spam, direct conversation back on-topic if it veers, and deal with the very occasional bad actor
To my dismerits: * Absolutely not an expert in Genode or Sculpt * New to the community, don't have any real trust or reputation yet * Not willing to handle a large volume of posts or a contentious communinity (though it doesn't seem like it will be)
- Spencer
On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Norman Feske wrote:
Hello everyone,
recent activity on the mailing list and issue tracker suggests that our community lacks a public space for causal talk among users.
The issue tracker is the time-tested workbench of Genode's developers. As a tool for organizing work and discussing deeply technical topics, it is not conductive for uninitiated people who wish to get engaged with the project.
Our mailing list is an adequate medium to get technical questions answered, discussing the road map, or to publish announcements. But its somewhat formal character is inappropriate for causal conversation about topics merely tangential to Genode.
The subreddit /r/genode is pretty much deserted. IRC lacks persistence and structure.
Recently, I got repeatedly asked for my opinion about creating a Discourse forum or for unlocking the forum functionality of our GitHub project. I would leave the latter unconsidered to keep our dependency from GitHub features at bay. But I'm wondering, would it be worthwhile to consider opening a forum at Discourse [1]? It is open source and can in principle be self-hosted. Unlike proprietary SaaS products, all forum data is portable.
Our small team of Genode Labs is not able to carry the additional burden of operating a self-hosted Discourse instance today. But we'd consider purchasing a forum at discourse.org and cover the expenses.
As the forum would be a place for users, it should best be operated and moderated by users, not the Genode developer team. This way, the forum won't have any corporate smell, everyone can be on eye level, and the core developer team won't be consumed by additional responsibilities.
This brings me to the following question:
Are there volunteers among you who'd like to contribute by assuming the role of administering and moderating of such a forum?
Cheers Norman
-- Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske Genode Labs
https://www.genode-labs.com · https://genode.org
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Hello everyone,
following up my posting from about one week ago, I'm happy to announce the new Genode forum hosted at Discourse:
https://genode.discourse.group
Thanks a lot to Spencer and Cedric for their immediate responses to my call for support! I gladly accept their offer to constitute the initial moderation team.
Technically, the forum is realized via a commercial plan paid by Genode Labs. Thereby we are supporting the Discourse open-source project and formally maintain a customer relationship. Except for administrative tasks or emergencies, the forum user 'genodelabs' won't participate in discussions or moderation. Christian Helmuth and me just joined the forum as regular users 'chelmuth' and 'nfeske'.
Hereby, I'm inviting you to join as well. :)
Cheers Norman
Thanks, Genode Labs for sponsoring this - it's very generous of you.
I just signed up - see you all there!
On 8/12/24 4:52 AM, Norman Feske wrote:
Hello everyone,
following up my posting from about one week ago, I'm happy to announce the new Genode forum hosted at Discourse:
https://genode.discourse.group
Thanks a lot to Spencer and Cedric for their immediate responses to my call for support! I gladly accept their offer to constitute the initial moderation team.
Technically, the forum is realized via a commercial plan paid by Genode Labs. Thereby we are supporting the Discourse open-source project and formally maintain a customer relationship. Except for administrative tasks or emergencies, the forum user 'genodelabs' won't participate in discussions or moderation. Christian Helmuth and me just joined the forum as regular users 'chelmuth' and 'nfeske'.
Hereby, I'm inviting you to join as well. :)
Cheers Norman
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