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Shahbaz khan shazalive at ...9...
Fri Apr 14 21:13:24 CEST 2017

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Nobody III <hungryninja101 at ...9...>

> I've been wondering, is there any reason not to use base-hw_x86_64_muen on
> regular hardware? It seems to work fine in Qemu, and

Release notes mention Thinkpad X201.Muen website makes me cautious but if
Qemu works then we are good for a start. Have your tried virtualbox?

So bochs is not mandatory.

> almost all Genode drivers are in userspace. Is there some limitation that
> I'm not aware of?
Well anything is easily possible with micro-kernel architecture in concept
but I was curious whether we run base_hw kernel that is muen according to
mainline repo's files.
The diagram from release notes depict base_hw kernel on Muen SK. It still
does not make sense to me. I will have to look later as I am working on
some basic presentation on Muen and genode for some prospects.

> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Shahbaz khan <shazalive at ...9...> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Christian Helmuth <
>> christian.helmuth at ...1...> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 11:54:47AM +0500, Shahbaz khan wrote:
>>> > I have started working with Genode, while I am interested in foc based
>>> > development and it seems the Genode efforts also prefer foc as I have
>>> been
>>> > trying run/demo for builds.
>>> I would not go along with telling that we "prefer" base-foc as most of
>>> our scenarios run on all supported kernels. Prominent exceptions are
>>> support for hardware virtualization (only on NOVA and hw/Muen) and
>>> TrustZone (hw only). If you address ARM and x86 alike I'd suggest you
>>> try out base-hw.
>> I got a bit acquainted with the release notes but I still find it
>> difficult to comprehend what really base-hw means when we say "Genode base
>> -hw" on Muen SK.
>> I am having some build issues (I do get an image.elf but build does not
>> complete) and have yet not looked into earlier commits and branches so I
>> would appreciate if you can let me know what actually runs over Muen SK in
>> Genode base-hw kernel VM. Does it mean we run another kernel like nova
>> between Muen and virtualbox.
>> I really like the idea but if we have another kernel below virtualbox
>> than why not run virtualbox on Muen as a subject? I am unable to criticize
>> clearly due to the mentioned confusion.
>> Thanks.
>> Regards,
>> Shahbaz
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