Nix and Noux

Norman Feske norman.feske at ...1...
Sat Jan 10 18:14:50 CET 2015

Hi Emery,

> I'd like some advice on the Nix port.
> Much of the user inteface side of Nix is Perl scripts, is Perl known not
> to work with Noux at the moment, or has it just not been ported?

the port is just missing. I cannot say how difficult it will be to port
Perl as a Noux package. I have never tried it. Maybe, it would be worth
to just give it a try and see if we are lucky? :-)

> If Perl not available, I could just remove the Perl stuff the noux-pkg
> build process. The Perl stuff is just frontends, and we really don't
> need them to create packages, maybe if we were managing a persistant
> Noux setup, but that would be best done with stacked archives managed
> outside Noux.


> I would think the other possibility is to come up with a native Nix that
> creates its own Noux environment for build processes.

I think this goes in the right direction. Ideally, for each Nix
operation a dedicated Noux instance should be started that is tailored
to the steps that Nix is performing.

> Basically the requirements of Nix are traversing a readonly filesystem
> to evaulate expressions, a temporary enviroment and filesystem for
> building outputs, and a filesystem for storing outputs. There is also a
> database for storing dependency information but I think that can be
> overlooked for now.

It sounds like those requirements are covered by Noux.

> A hopefully easier question is assuming I get something working in Noux
> right now, what is the best way to write out files generated during a
> Genode run?

Noux will need to access a persistent file system. So you need a block
driver (like USB storage, AHCI, or ATAPI) and a file system (rump_fs).
When working with Qemu, you may boot from an ISO image (as done by
default) and add an additional disk image as Qemu argument. Of course,
you will first need to format the image with an ext2 file system.


Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske
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