Para-virtualization support for ARM on Genode

S Madhu smadhu2048 at ...9...
Mon Sep 22 17:50:42 CEST 2014


Praveen,
You also need only one instance of linux.
On Sep 22, 2014 8:39 PM, "Praveen B" <srinivasprv at ...9...> wrote:

> Norman,
> Thank you for the reply.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Stefan Kalkowski <
> stefan.kalkowski at ...1...> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/22/2014 08:26 AM, Praveen B wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > We are able to run Genode-14.08 on i.MX6 board.
>> > Now I am planning to add support for virtualization for Genode on i.MX6.
>> >
>> > As the processor is Cortex-A9, it does not have virtualization
>> > extensions. So I am planning to implement a hypervisor to run
>> > para-virtualized linux, similar to the one proposed in the following
>> paper,
>> >
>> http://systems.cs.columbia.edu/archive/pub/2014/03/kvm-arm-the-design-and-implementation-of-the-linux-arm-hypervisor/
>>
>> The paper you're refering to doesn't use a para-virtualization approach,
>> but uses hardware assisted virtualization.
>>
>
> I'm sorry. That was wrong link.
> The paper is,
> http://systems.cs.columbia.edu/archive/pub/2010/07/kvm-for-arm/
>
>
>>
>> >
>> > I am not sure that would work for ARMv7 as they have only tested for
>> > ARMv5. Can you suggest any other para-virtualization solutions preferred
>> > for the implementation of Genode. I saw L4Linux but it is a port of
>> > linux to L4Re and not to the kernel itself. On the other hand,
>> > SierraVisor and Xen  are bare metal hypervisors.
>>
>> You're right vanilla L4Linux is tied to L4Re, but we've a port of
>> L4Linux that runs on Genode, but on Fiasco.OC only. Alternatively, if
>> one instance of Linux is enough for your scenario, you might use the
>> normal world of TrustZone to ease up para-virtualization, as you don't
>> have to implement CPU virtualization on your own, but other devices
>> only. The third alternative of course is to para-virtualize Linux from
>> scratch.
>>
>>
> We will use the first option, that is, L4Linux with Genode on Fiasco.OC.
> Thank you
>
> Regards
> Praveen
>
>
>> >
>> > The road map for Genode 14.11 says virtualization support for Cortex-A7.
>> > I assume you will be using virtualization extensions and not a
>> > para-virtualization solution.
>>
>> Yes, we're planning to support hardware-assisted virtualization,
>> although it should be called Cortex-A15 instead of Cortex-A7.
>> Nevertheless, the difference should be negligible.
>>
>> >
>> > Can you suggest which is the best place to start. Should I implement a
>> > VMM similar to tz_vmm server or should it be implemented in base-hw as
>> > VMM should be in supevisor mode and not user mode.
>>
>> If you're planning to build a para-virtualized solution on your own, I
>> would strongly recommend to follow the spirit of Genode's microkernel
>> based architecture. To minimize the trusted computing base (TCB) of all
>> applications, the kernel shouldn't include code that is used just by a
>> corner-case (para-virtualization) application. Instead use the scheme of
>> having the virtual machine monitor within the user-mode. Thereby, the
>> VMM might be linked together with the para-virtualized VM, like it is
>> done in the L4Linux approach, or you change to a disjunct VMM task
>> whenever the VM traps.
>>
>> Regards
>> Stefan
>>
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Praveen Srinivas
>> > M.Tech 2nd Year,
>> > CSE, IIT Madras
>> >
>> >
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