OM: A real-world, tangible, desktop implementation of Genode

spaesani at ...165... spaesani at ...165...
Tue Jan 15 18:18:25 CET 2013

I'm looking to implement an  'auii' on the genode platform. I'll be putting out the 'auii' spec along with (within really) an xml based model/prototype, hopefully this first quarter 2013 (this year) at
It addresses rather completely the 'user interaction thng', including various use levels.

If anyone's interested in participating let me know. I might accelerate the spec/proto/model release accordingly.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Bessa
> Sent: 01/14/13 03:07 PM
> To: Genode OS Framework Mailing List
> Subject: Re: OM: A real-world, tangible, desktop implementation of Genode
> Hello Norman,
> My break-down of your writing is that the biggest challenge for the
> user-model is to structure a
>   1) user-relationship via the
>   2) desktop to a
>   3) chain of interacting components with regard to data
>   4) persistence and
>   5) access
> I describe this "chain of interaction" as "complexity," but complex data is
> usually described as "dictionaries" --showing low comprehension of it.
>  Shell, in particular "comprehended" complexity so effectively with its
> file-objects that I think we fell into a homeostasis while we should have
> been extending it to create its own objects.   Thus, we would have
> currently-valid interaction with the OS.  An OO shell extension might
> include the "arrow" operator to define, or link, interaction between
> desktop objects.
> I am attempting to create a summary of L4/Genode material including Drops
> and its OS kit components, the driver synthesis concept, and your
> alternative microkernels (such as Xen) to create SVG charting material.  I
> have seen Lua used in L4 boot, so that should go in the summary as well.
> Preserving the GNU/Unix gcc structure makes sense through "eating your own
> dog food" it provides an easy entry point for younger free/software
> programmers.  Because these young programmers probably
> have limited resources, the computer running Genode (such as a flashed
> Android device) might be their only one, so allowing them to use this
> device for development reinforces "eating your own," well, vegetables.  As
> an early administrator, I recall that Shell's and GNU's simplicity as its
> asset allowing for easy inquiry into efficiency, practicality (usability),
> and security. It was easy to make a good living when Shell was king from
> 1990-2000.
> Regards, John

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