What I want to do.

Stefan Kalkowski stefan.kalkowski at genode-labs.com
Mon Mar 8 10:14:42 CET 2021

Hello Michael,

I'm pretty sure you already know that, but just in case you don't:

within the i.MX 8M SoC there is a security mechanism called "resource
domain controller" that enables one to divide the device peripherals
in between different OSes running on the different cores. Which means
you can - beside the IRQ routing - also prevent that the wrong OS
touches a MMIO region of a device not assigned to it.
I have not used that mechanism actively, but given your use-case it
might be interesting for you.

Best regards

On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 01:58:40AM +0100, Michael Grunditz wrote:
> In message <CAO3d8HiWwzqnWE+GqGYOhWaJN6KOmiidFBLB6rJC+x2_Mx7Btw at mail.gmail 
> .com>
>           Edoardo Mantovani <mantovani.edoardo18 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> > Sorry if I am late, but only now I had time for read this:
> > http://www.update.uu.se/~micken/ronetbsd.html
> Thanks.
> > Extremely interesting and, at the same time, extremely fast to read,
> > I have only one question:
> > Have you created two more GRUB partitions (separate one from each other) to
> > boot the 2 systems?
> ARM doesn't use GRUB , it uses u-boot. I have only done this for RK3399 
> SoC. It started with the fact that the cpu was continuing running after I 
> started RISC OS on the A72 core 0. I figured that this could be (ab)used 
> to run a second system.
> > it would be interesting to know more about the boot phase because honestly
> > I can't understand if there could be problems related to the probe of the
> > connected devices (like, if the 2 OS at the same time probe via PCI for the
> > same hardware at the same time, could an error occur? for example something
> > like "device busy, impossible to connect with it"?)
> > It would be very interesting for an article about an advanced Fault
> > Injection methodology that I've been thinking about for a long time.
> I am very careful not to use the same devices from the different OSes. I 
> am using what is called affinity routing in the interrupt "chip" (General 
> Interrupt Controller). It does route the interrupts to different CPUs. 
> That means that only the supported hardware interrupts.
> I have written a couple of drivers for NetBSD in order to use the WiMP in 
> RISC OS (the desktop) as input and display devices.
> The NetBSD project is the first of it kind ,according to NetBSD 
> developers. There are other uses that do run a realtime system on a small 
> cpu. But I haven't found anything that does run full scale OSes without 
> virtualization  . Correct me if I am wrong!
> > Let me know,
> > Regards,
> > Edoardo Mantovani, 2021
> <big snip>
> You can in theory run 4 OSes on a quad core cpu. But the OSes needs to be 
> able to run quite  limited.
> Best regards,
> Michael
> -- 
>        Michael Grunditz
> Sent from my RISC OS workstation..
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