Mhamad Hmad mhh.it1986 at ...9...
Thu Jun 5 16:43:59 CEST 2014

*Hi Norman,*
*I am little confused . Do i need to change all the liwp socket calls  wich
has blocking property like (accept , recvfrom,etc ) with non blocking
calls, then I need to use asynchronous notifications. instead of  using
Block RPC calls , *


2014-05-28 19:30 GMT+01:00 Norman Feske <norman.feske at ...1...>:

> Hi Mohammad,
> the steps you described look plausible to me.
> > What I am Facing:
> >
> >     - when i tried to run more then one echo server ( in different port)
> > ,the lwip is
> >       not working will and what i found that when the tow echo server
> > try to accept
> >       connection the first one will block the other. and it means that
> > lwip is not multi       threading any more.
> >    Is the RPC prevent the lwip multi-threading or I am doing some thing
> > wrong .
> >    I maنe my problem easy to be understood, if not just ask me to
> clarify.
> According to your server-side code, there is only a single entrypoint
> thread that serves the requests for all clients. While one client issues
> a blocking call (i.e., accept), the entrypoint thread cannot process RPC
> requests for other clients. All RPC calls are processed in a serialized
> way.
> There are two possible ways to solve this issue. You can either (1)
> remove blocking RPC calls from the RPC interface or (2) make the server
> multi-threaded (using one entrypoint per session).
> If you go for (1), how to implement blocking functions like accept,
> then? The solution is the use of asynchronous notifications. Instead of
> issuing a blocking RPC call, the client would register a signal handler
> at the server. It would then issue a non-blocking version of RPC
> function (which immediately returns) and subsequently wait for a signal
> from the server. In contrast to the blocking RPC call, in this scenario
> the blocking happens at the client side only. So the server can keep
> handling other incoming RPC requests. Of course, on the server side,
> this asynchronous mode of operation must be implemented accordingly,
> e.g., by using 'select' in main program. So the server cannot remain a
> mere wrapper around the lwip API.
> If you go for (2), you have to implement the 'Root_component' class by
> yourself. Each 'Session_component' would contain a 'Rpc_entrypoint' that
> manages the single 'Session_component' only. Effectively, each time a
> client creates a connection, a dedicated entrypoint thread gets created.
> Unfortunately, the current version of Genode does not feature an example
> for a server that uses one entrypoint per session. However, once (like
> two years ago), there existed a version of the timer driver for NOVA
> that employed this scheme. You may take this code as inspiration:
> https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/tree/b54bdea2aae245b2d8f53794c1c1b9b2da371592/os/src/drivers/timer/nova
> Which would be the preferable way to go? I would definitely go for (1)
> because this solution would be much cleaner and more light-weight (i.e.,
> you'd not need a thread per client). However, I am afraid that it is
> more elaborative than (2) because you will need to model your server as
> a state machine. The normal BSD socket interface uses blocking calls for
> accept. So you'd need to replace them by an asynchronous alternative,
> possibly diving right into the inner realms of the lwIP stack to
> accomplish that.
> Btw, if you look at recent implementations of services on Genode, you
> will find that all new servers have embraced the asynchronous design.
> E.g., take a look at how 'Timer_session::msleep()' works as an example.
> Still, exploring (2) might be a worthwhile experiment and a useful
> interim solution.
> Cheers
> Norman
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