Interesting! I have never heard of it. It does look like the project is practically dead.

On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, at 16:36, Spencer via users wrote:
You might also be interested in Sandstorm, a service that only does the 'user apps' type of thing that nextcloud has. It has a strong focus on security (even over usability) and is big into capabilities much like Genode is. IMO. if there is a 'right way' to do a web app store, this is it.

Development on it is slow, as the business behind it failed and there's only a few volunteers left, and truthfully there's not enough apps for it to be that useful yet, but if you're into Sculpt it seems like that shouldn't be a problem ;)

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Jack Curran wrote:
John J. Karcher wrote:
> Do you mind if I ask what software you run for your e-mail and NAS servers?

Hi John, I haven't actually set up my NAS completely yet. However I have setup the software I'll be using for NFS. I am running a docker container of Owncloud Infinite Scale(OCIS) on NixOS. I just use NixOS as it is my daily driver OS, however it isn't necessary to use, as long as you are able to run docker on whatever OS. OCIS is the new version of Owncloud(OC) which has been written in GO from scratch I believe and is intended to be used by enterprise environments with many users, therefore it is very stable and secure. OC is written in PHP and is still used by many people, however I don't recomended using it. I think most of the development focus is now on OCIS rather than OC. 

One major difference with OCIS is that you can't install apps like you can with OC and Nextcloud. I don't believe there are any plans to add app support, which I think is good, they should just focus on file storage. With nextcloud you can download calendars, news feeds, radio, mail servers and clients, contact storage, weather apps etc. However, I prefer to use dedicated software in their own containers for each requirement I have, rather than use one piece of software, such as nextcloud, that tries to be a jack of all trades, but isn't great at any singular task. I Like the Unix philosophy, do one thing and do it well. I have also heard many complaints about nextcloud corrupting user's file storage and having other database issues. Also the encryption in nextcloud is not good, to say the least, as far as I've read. I don't have first hand experience however.

https://owncloud.com/infinite-scale/
https://doc.owncloud.com/ocis/next/
https://doc.owncloud.com/ocis/next/deployment/container/container-setup.html

I haven't yet looked into what software I will run for an e-mail server.

> Your comment also brings up the possibility of porting docker to Genode. 
>   I wonder if the new Linux device driver porting paradigm would help 
> here.

Yeah, I don't know how hard or easy that would be. But it seems like it should be possible if we can already run virtual machines in Sculpt.
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